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April 10, 2010


I can't believe it has been almost 2 years since my last update and over 6 years since our group has been making hydrogen. I have been very frustrated because we are very successful in running a vehicle on hydrogen for less than gasoline. Most of the people we show it to simply say things like "F%*@n tree huggers", or "what am I going to do about the payment on my SUV?"
    It would be really frustrating to bring a vehicle back from the future just to have people despise it. So far the only people that have also been successful in running their vehicles are unfortunately in other countries and the worst part is we are the ones that helped them. I first started doing this because I wanted to help the United States, but I have found out that it isn't a president or money that will help the USA. People are the problem. One example is I was talking to a young man that had lost his job and his house. He told me he wanted to buy the new Camero. Pretty much nothing about the Camero is made in the USA except the name and would not help the earth or his living conditions at all, but his mind was set.
    I used to race vehicles and had a high paying state job. I quit that job and moved to Costa Rica for awhile and then to Arkansas because they give the freedom to build an efficient home. I am now selling that home and moving to a smaller house where my cooling and heating are going to be free. The house I currently live in only averages $26 a month on the electricity and it is all electric, but I know I can do better. I drive a bicycle around, so I hardly even have a need for gasoline or hydrogen.
   There are things individuals can do. We have got a lot of our community growing gardens and trading food. It has taken years but it is paying off. I wish more people would have taken off on using hydrogen, but at least I put it out there for everybody to have a crack at it. I don't like to quit, but this site costs a bit in time and money (answering emails and electronics). I guess I am getting a little like most of the people and becoming selfish. I would like to spend more of my time riding my bicycle, fishing, and simply enjoying life. I am sorry I will not be spending as much of my time to help our next generations enjoy the same. If you are one of the few people who are actually running on hydrogen and helping others do it, Thank you!
For those of you who believe your actions do not cause a reaction, you are wrong.
 

January 3, 2009


Because things are slow and gas prices are still low, I have put a lot of my time into selling a couple of properties.  Luckily I have had a little luck, so I should have money and a little time again to spend on the Hydrogen projects hopefully within a month or two.

 

December 25, 2008


Gas prices have really dropped and so has the economy.  I will have to admit I have put more effort into selling a house and a piece of land lately.  I do believe Hydrogen is much more important to all things, but I guess I am watching out for myself a bit.  I apologize for that.

October 25 25, 2008


It has taken me a bit just to get the Honda running okay on gas.  It needed a transmission, fender, and front end work.  I will be trying to make a manifold for it very soon.  It is easy to buy an expensive valve, but our goal is to make this whole system affordable for everyone.  So far with gas prices dropping below $2.00 the Hydrogen is not as cost effective.  Although it is only equivalent of $1.70 per gallon, there is the time to flush the tubes and other maintenance.  We have still been working on using as little electricity as possible yet be able to fill a tank within a day.

August 2, 2008


We have purchased a 95 Honda Civic and a Toyota Corolla for experimenting with distance.  We have still not compressed the HHO to very high pressures.  We have a very safe way of compressing it, but I just do not trust the check valves or lines.  I feel very confident on our progress with getting better Hydrogen.  So far the less the tubes heat up, the better the Hydrogen we use is.  I can tell this by how long the chainsaw runs on it.

June 25, 2008


Many people have asked me why isn't the scientific world already doing this.  The answer is, they are.
The only problem is you are the scientific people.  Others are watching survivor and visiting Walmart while you are reading about hydrogen.  The real truth is lots of people are running pure hydrogen in their vehicles.  Even when you show people, they still don't believe it.  I have done that with bio-diesel and many other "New" technology ideas.  Mr. Diesel himself made the engine to run on Canola oil (vegetable oil).  It is not a new idea and it isn't good for our future.  Hydrogen is possible right now.
   The other questions I get is how dangerous is hydrogen.  The truth is hydrogen is not dangerous at all.  Actually, either is a gun.  You have to pick it up, put a bullet in it, then put it in the hands of an idiot  to make it dangerous.  I feel hydrogen is the same.  I cannot tell you to play with hydrogen because I do not want that liability.  I have never been burned by hydrogen.  My soldering gun is a different issue.  I think soldering guns are really dangerous.

 

June 25, 2008


We tried a tube type today and because of the thick material, it was really hard to keep it cool.  You really need to keep it a good grade of stainless if you are going to make a tube and it cannot be too thick.  .065 seems to be the maximum for running a pulse generator about 8 hours without overheating.  I honestly did not think there was an electrolyzer which would overheat using the pulse generator, but with thick steel acting as an insulator, you can do it.  I couldn't even dial it down because it absorbed the heat so well.  This was a very thick 304 stainless.  I have used 304 many times, but for some reason this stuff seems to have more iron in it.

 

June 20, 2008


I actually made a pulse generator which could burn 10 guage wiring and not overheat the generator itself.  I also made one which has an input of 11.85 Volts and an output of 15.4 Volts.  It does not have a coil setup and it does not lose noteable amperage, because I have tested it.  Sound crazy? I am keeping this pulse generator just so I can show people.  I will try to get a video of it.

I am not too happy with the Chinese motorcycle.  It gets great fuel economy, but leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to quality.


June 14, 2008


I am very happy with the new designs on the fuel cell.  Thank you to the people who have helped make it better and your suggestions.

I am sorry the motorcycles I am looking at are not legal to register in California.  If you know a way around it, let me know.  I believe the motorcycle hydrogen kit will be the first kit I will have available to the public.  It takes money to make things happen in a timely manner, and unfortunately the people who need this thing the most, just don't seem to have the money.  I guess I am getting a little political.  I already know it isn't someone else who will change things.  It will be you and me.
 

June 10, 2008


Since I hardly drive or watch TV, I will have to believe gas prices just keep going up from the responses I am getting from the site.  Please read hydrogen basics before buying these electrolyzers from ebay or any others which claim to get 20% more and better fuel economy.  There is already too much money going to the wrong people.  There is a way to completely run an engine on Hydrogen, but you really should know what it takes before spending a lot of money on what it doesn't take.
  
    I am currently working on a timing controller and I hope to have it in my motorcycle very soon.  It will work the same for a vehicle.  I am hoping to keep the cost around $35 or $15 for the kit.
    Part of the reason for this website is to get enough people together to save money.  I do this by buying bulk items and networking with others.


June 6, 2008


Fuel Cell construction seems to be the staple.  I really appreciate the support in getting some theories generated.  Doing is always the toughest when it comes to implementing.  When you have spent money over and over without success, it is hard to put another one together.  I do feel there is great promise for us "normal" people.  You know, the people who work for our money.


June 4, 2008


Most of my time seems to be showing people that it works.  Now that the pulse is doing well, I would like to devote more time to the cell design.  With thinner metal and shorter length we have really done well in controlling the heat.  I need to work on efficiency a little more before I consider it to be the correct design.  I am still getting input from others, so I don't want to spend a lot of time or money on something which could be improved on right away.


June 1, 2008


Based on running single cylinder engines, here is a quick calculation to know if someone is telling the truth or not.
Hydrogen goes quickly.  1 liter in 10 seconds at 20 lbs for a single cylinder engine.  This means you could run possibly 100 seconds at 200 lbs and 1000 seconds at 2000lbs.  1000 divided by 60 is approximately 16 minutes per liter. 4 minutes per liter on an efficient four cylinder engine.  If you going fast consider it to last half as long.  3.79 Liters in a gallon.  15 minutes per gallon at 2000 lbs or running fast 7 minutes per gallon.  20 gallons would be 140 minutes.  I have not attained 2000 lbs., so I cannot tell you for sure what the outcome is.  I will try to get a video soon of me running an engine on Hydrogen produced by the generator.

June 1, 2008


I think the main question everybody really wants to know is how can I run my vehicle on Hydrogen.  Roy McAlister has many good videos on how to hook up a combustion motor.  I suggest starting with that.  It takes a lot of hydrogen to run an engine which was made for gasoline.  It takes the hydrogen generators a long time to fill up a tank which can run a vehicle a short distance.  The main problem with affordable generators is overheating and amp draw.  Again I suggest watching Roy McAlister on youtube or purchase his CD's and then realize a short stroke high compression engine would run hydrogen a lot better.  Hydrogen simply burns much faster.

 

May 31, 2008


It seems like advancements are being made at a pretty good pace.  Several of the pulse generators have now operated with many different cells and seem very dependable.  We are keeping deterioration down pretty good and I have lowered the amps to where it doesn't cost much to run it (a 20 Watt solar cell would do it).  I would like to thank everybody for the support.  I would like to explain to the others that putting your head between your legs under a desk will not protect you from a nuclear explosion.  Believe it or not, this is what I was taught in elementary school.  They would ring the alarm and we would all kiss our butts.  Please don't believe everything you hear on TV.  If you even catch yourself saying "Why aren't they doing that", assume they can do it and just go ahead and do it yourself.

 

May 29, 2008


Again I have been neglecting the computer.  Services for D Mark are tomorrow.  He is in our prayers. Please help me continue his encouragement to use technology to make life better.  It can now be done.

Since the generators and fuel cells are working constant with no overheating or failures, it is time to make adapters for more than one engine.  I am hoping to have a 350 Chevy and 4 cylinder Toyota pickup soon. 

 

May 23, 2008


I ran two different pulse generators for over four hours straight with no overheating on the fuel cell or on the transistor.  Great success!.  This means it could fill up a tank during the day with a solar panel.  All you would need is a pressure switch to shut it off and a pop off for emergency.
   As long as they allow this information up here, I will continue to write it.  If you see something interesting on the site I suggest you copy it to your hard drive because there is no guarantee it will be here tomorrow.


May 21, 2008


This would have been a great day for D Mark.  We have a good working system with no overheating problems and the pulse generator is working excellent.  D Mark knew the system was going to work, but I wish he could have seen us run it.  I will be trying to get a dual setup tomorrow.
 

May 18, 2008


Very sad day.  D Mark Willis died.  He was the founder and motivator for the hydrogen group.  He purchased many items for making hydrogen such as pulse generators, special metals, etc.  He felt hydrogen was the answer and he was worried the younger generation was not going to do it.  Large corporation should not dictate how you live your life. 


May 17, 2008


The reason I am putting this information here is because after looking at several other pulse generators, I have come to the conclusion,  this information is needed.  Here are some basics.

Transistor basics

  • Most Mosfets (Transistors) cannot take heat  (from a soldering gun or from being shorted).
  • You need to use a heat sink when soldering these.
  • There should not be a complete circuit between D and S until the pulse generator is turned on.  Occasionally you will get feedback, but with G energized it should completely switch.
  • Amperage is not the main problem.  Heat is.
  • If you are going to draw more than 6 amps continuously, you need more than one mosfet or you need a relay.

 
Yes, I have been having fun looking at the different styles and the ways people have put these together.  Please ask people a few simple questions before spending money.
1.  Is it fused or protected?
2.  Do you have a diode protecting the circuit board from a transistor failure? (and yes they do fail when you put loads on them).
3.  Which transistor (Mosfet) is used in the generator?  (Check the heat and amperage rating).  I have that information if you cannot find it.

May 16, 2008


THE 555 TIMER CIRCUIT

The issue with a basic astable timer circuit is it runs best at 8-10 volts.  I realize they state 5-18 volts.  That is a load of you know what.  If you are generating hydrogen, then you normally have a pretty high voltage battery with a good amp rating.  I have had to put a 1N4007 diode along with a 1K - 1.5K resistor to the input of the board to keep the pulse running correctly.  The best way is to make a simple regulator circuit and keep the voltage around 8.5 - 10 Volts D/C.  Also in order for the mosfet to not get saturated you need a pretty good capacitor strictly for handling the electrolyzer.
 

May 15, 2008


It seems I have been spending quite a lot of time soldering.  I have been examining many other pulse generators and even found something pretty funny about the square drive kit.  It can't work.  They send you the wrong parts and without a diode it just turns on full anyway.  For those of you who use those, here are some basics.  The numbers on Capacitors are as follows, The #101 is .1nF, #102 is 1nF, and #103 is 10nF.  Which way ground is on the small ones doesn't always matter, but check them just the same..  Very strange.  Sometimes I think it is better just to hook up your frequency counter and read the output of each one.
    I did come up with a great pulse generator.  I have Pulse (.01mhz to 200Khz)  I had 2Mhz, but found once you are that high in frequency the Mosfet pretty much stays on. 
   I also made the duration way beyond the standard 50K.  The big one deal is it has reverse polarity.  This baby can check pretty much any fuel cell.  The reverse polarity works great on thin plates and other shapes.  It does not work very good on the large tubes or thick plates. 
    I will try to get some schematics together (sorry, not very soon) since I am wanting to test the different pulse generators on different fuel cells.

May 13, 2008


I have unfortunately spent time ordering parts and trying to do some studying on super capacitors.  This is great technology and I hope we see it soon, but I think not.  I hope to incorporate a grounding system into the pulse generator which allows the plates to "unload".  So far a fairly large capacitor with a couple of bi-filar coils seems to help.  It is finally great to be running things using hydrogen.  After spending loads of time on Meyers, Ravi, and a bunch of other "load of BS" we finally made one that works really good.
Two key points:
1) If the electrolyzer is surrounded by water it isn't going to produce very volatile hydrogen and it is going to draw a lot of amperage.
2) If the electrolyzer is being hooked to a vacuum source then the supplier is full of again (you know what).  Vacuum is high only at idle.  The engine hardly has any vacuum when you put on the throttle. This would be the opposite effect you would need.

May 11, 2008


My site has been munched several times.  I just don't have the backups like I should.  I have other sites on this server and virtually no problems with those (go figure).  I had much of May up here three times and I am not putting it back up.
Just to keep you up, I have been trying different Mosfet/Hexfets.  What I am finding is the different resistances require a different mosfet in order to stay at a certain pulse.  They become saturated and really don't work correctly.  I have a complete list of Mosfets which I have tried on plate, round, and tube type hydrogen cells.  I so far have not seen a great increase at a certain frequency.  Generally as you increase the frequency it increases the amperage which produces more hydrogen.  The reverse polarity really works good, so I am going to concentrate on making a generator more to those specifications.  Unfortunately my little soldering iron has deteriorated.  I am getting overloaded with known not to work mosfets.  Time to get rid of those. I sure have been fed a lot of incorrect information.

May 7, 2008


We are really learning when you put a lot of arc under water it pretty much burns the hydrogen up as fast as it is produced.  It is sure neat to see a type of cold fusion, but for how much power we used it is not feasible to run an on-demand type system.  I am going to concentrate more on pulses which will help produce the most hydrogen while keeping the amperage down.  More soldering to do.

April 27, 2008


Trying a steam method today.  I really need to solder some stuff together.  Taking it a bit easy.  I was a little disappointed with yesterday.  Wish I knew a mathematician which could tell me why one generator puts out three times the hydrogen with less amps.  I feel it is the electron field, but I cannot duplicate it . . . yet.  Had a thought using a slide system like the old variable resistors.   It would be great to have someone else try some of these or discount them with logic.   Anybody?  . . .

April 26, 2008


Made a single tube type generator and experimented with coils on the outside.  No change.  Tried smaller cups with less production than the medium sizes.  Tried 110V at 8 amps with no more production.  If it isn't amps and it isn't magnetism.  What is it?  Something is making a certain size produce at twice the rate and it isn't frequency.  Hmm.

I am very disappointed with the steel with more nickel. That and chrome is not producing nearly the same amount.  The cost factors are really not justifying the cost savings.

April 25, 2008


I got parts today.  I messed around more with the pulse generator.  The one I am currently testing does not have a diode to protect the 555 timer, nor does it have much control for the pulse.  I have schematics on this website showing how to save your timers.  Tomorrow I hope to have the one tube ready for testing.  I am hoping to eliminate some suspicions and maybe I can have another happy accident.

April 24, 2008


Going to test a single tube to see if magnetism makes much difference on the production of hydrogen.  One thing we are starting to realize is the shape makes a big difference.  If you have a lot of hydrogen going up plates or tubes, this creates air pockets which will not produce hydrogen.  In other words, water needs to hit the plate in order to produce hydrogen.  If the water is displaced with hydrogen, less hydrogen will be produced.

April 23, 2008


I am still awaiting some parts so I got some domestic stuff done.  Here is some price information I found out today.  I knew these metals existed, but I wasn't too sure of their price or how they were sold.
Inconel 600 or 625 starts at about $35 a foot.  1" tubing with .49 wall.  20ft lengths.
700 or higher is usually special order so you can get an idea of that price
Monel is highly corrosive resistant because of the high nickel content and is sold normally in 48X96 sheets or flat stock.  Not normally sold in tube form.

April 22, 2008


I know there is a possibility I'll end up spending a bit of money for nothing, but I am really ready to put some good stainless to the test.  I keep trying the coil in lots of different ways with no success.  I think John Aaron has some really good results with similar situations.

April 21, 2008


I tried a 6 pole DPDT switch today to see if polarizing helped with the bigger plates.  The smaller plates were less affected and the larger plates were less affected.  It is now time to get the calculators out for the real test.  I am awaiting some electronic goodies.  I did figure out why it produces more when it is slightly sideways.  There is more water touching the metal.  When hydrogen builds up it takes up water area.  I also tried hooking a 1/2 inch tube up to it.  It really puts out the bubbles.


April 20, 2008


Went to even larger plates with no success.  There is a perfect shape and size to match the current of the cars battery and I am still trying different shapes and currents.  So far I am really not impressed with the pulse generator.  I am starting to think amplification pulse with a capacitor for resonating is better.

Sunday.  Looked up a lot more plasma type inventions.  Lots of money going out on research is what I am seeing so far.


April 19, 2008


Many things tried tonight.  2 larger plates seem to work better, but drew quite a bit.  Over heated the pulse generator (the 555 timer).  We think it was a faulty timer since it was not hooked up at the time, and not for long the time before.

Definitely less water takes less current. 

Made the new version with 4 plates with no luck.  I could not get them close enough to produce without using more current.  Tried 3 with neutral plate.  Again using way to many amps to make it reasonable.  Great disappointment.  More testing . . .
 

April 18, 2008


Details.  Soon to have a better version complete.  Getting the pieces.  It all looks good on paper.  Famous last words.
 

April 17, 2008


Looking for diodes which can handle the feedback of the high voltage from the coil pack.

I tested the Gaussian system today and I felt it was a success.  This is the only one which does not need seals or spacers to keep it apart which saves on time and money.  It also seems to work better when a small vibration is added.  I would like to see it work with the pulse generator.  It is hard to say yet whether or not the piezo would work better than the coil.  I chose the coil because of the extra output and I knew  I could change the duration and strength.

Here is a video of my attempt. 

 

I tried different spacers to see what would have the most output.  With stainless it seems that 1mm does seem to be the best for the density of water.

 

April 16, 2008


I tried the idea of vibration out today and it definitely helps on production.  I only tried it with aluminum and galvanized tin for testing only, but it has promise.

I called http://www.hitemco.com/ to see if any products could be used from ceramic or other coating to stop corrosion.
Possibilities:  Chrome Carbide, Tungsten Carbide.  The expense is fairly high and I don't believe it would work.  Pistons were near $200 for coating.  Just exploring. 
The company was fantastic.  Great personnel!

The resonator idea:  Maybe a good name for it would be Ding Dong, Ma Bell? . . .  just kidding.
 

April 15, 2008


April 18, 2008 Since the slanted tube idea doesn't work, I am removing the picture to save on space.

The slanted tube idea.  Each tube would be slanted just enough to create a motion (counter clockwise) in the water.  Also one tube slightly higher than the other for the same reason.    

April 16th .  This does not work.  It will not create enough bubbles in order to circulate it.  A deflector at the very top works better, but still does not circulate the water enough.


April 14, 2008


ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:  June 15, 2008 I am revisiting this after seeing one re sold on ebay.  The person had modified it to handle more.  I have also seen one similar called the aqua pulser where he stated upgrading the cooling fan and adding another mosfet to it according to the description on ebay. Also I never did receive any emails telling me if it worked or not.  I will have to conclude this does not work well with load, but I sure like the way it looks.
August 20, 2008 Recieved a couple of these type of units for repair. They need quite a bit of modification to work with hydrogen.  Not only for higher amperage, but to work with an intensifier circuit.  Very nicely put together, but missing some main points when dealing with Hydrogen.

Sold on Ebay $376.00 including shipping.  Seems pretty good.  I am hoping for feedback from emails.
I will post them as I get them.

This is copied directly from their description:

PowerPulse D14 Reproduction Gated PWM. NEW & IMPROVED!
The PowerPulse is a professionally designed and built gated DC pulse generator based on Dave Lawton's D14 circuit. (Which was a solid state circuit designed to replicate Stanley Meyer's work with Hydrogen production). NO PROTOTYPE BOARDS HERE!
Anyone who's played with hydrogen generators hooked straight up to DC current has probably realized by now that to create any kind of usable amounts of hydrogen requires more current than any standard automotive charging system can sustain, and this is the challenge set forth for us hobbyists. Stanley Meyer's genius was not necessarily in his cell design as much as it was in how he figured out that by pulsing electricity through the electrodes and fine tuning it, he was able to create large amounts of hydrogen on 5amps or less! BEWARE: We have seen several PWM's for sale that advertise high current capabilities when the whole goal is to use less current! The PowerPulse is fused for 6 amps or less for this reason. There are also many units being sold that do not have comparable adjustments for Gating/Oscillation & Mark/Space, Freq, etc. As we all have varying cell designs, these controls would be necessary to ensure we all get optimum results. The Powerpulse is our latest version and has been upgraded to run at up to 450-500khz, (Previous versions other than "PowerPulse" were rated for up to 200khz.)
Great attention to detail has been paid in the design and manufacturing of the PowerPulse.The unit is beautifully constructed in a rugged case with a silk-screened face, digital ammeter and 5-way biding posts for various electrical termination types.
Specs:
Input Voltage: 5-30volts DC
Current: 0-6amps (fuse protected, spare included)
Max Feq: (up to)500khz
Digital Ammeter
Dimensions(HxWxD): 2.5"x6"x7"

                          

- Called Coolingmist to get ideas for what is needed as an injection system.
  Dave needs a datasheet to figure out what is needed. 
  Not anyone has purchased this system for hydrogen use.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3798.msg85983  Interesting alternative to generating more hydrogen.

http://www.piezomaster.com/ A site with piezo technology products


Water injection system idea:

1.  PROVIDE  CONTINUOUS  80 #  PRESSURE  TO THE  WATER  INJECTION.
2.  PROVIDE  CONTINUOUS  REFILLING  OF  HYDROGEN  GENERATORS.

THE  CONTROLLER  MUST  BE  CONTINUOUSLY  PROGRESSIVE  AND  FEED
WATER  MIST  EXACTLY  PROPORTIONALLY  TO  THE  FUEL  FEED.
THE  PROPORTION -  10%  TO  50%  MUST  BE  PROGRAMMABLE .

THE  HYDROGEN  GENERATOR  AND  WATER  INJECTION  COMBINATION
WILL BE  USED  MOSTLY  ON  NORMALLY  ASPIRATED  ENGINES
SO  THE  ONLY  SENSOR  USED  SHOULD  BE THE  THROTTLE  POSITION
SENSO\R  (TPS)  ( 1 - 5  V )


 

EXTRA STUFF


OTHER WATER INJECTION SYSTEMS

Simple water vapor systems.  Just information, not pertinent to the generator.