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This is a list of questions which we hope will help the curious.
If you have any questions you would like to ask email me.

Why do I need a pulse generator?
Answer: You actually don't need one for a small fuel cell with no catalyst for short periods of time.  The biggest problem is the fuel cell keeps heating up and it takes lots of energy to run them.  The pulse keeps the heat manageable , uses less electricity, and helps keep deterioration minimal.

What happens when you hook 110V or 220V to a hydrogen plate generator?
Answer: The plates will short out unless you move them further apart.  If you are crazy enough to do that, A/C current will completely ground out in the water making it dance around, but hardly any more hydrogen will be produced.  Please do not try this at home.

Do the size of the tubes or plates make a difference on production
?
Answer: Yes, the size and the material make a huge difference.  Not only in the production, but with heat dissipation.  We found the thickness to be the most important and then matching the voltage to the distance between the tubes or plates to be the next most important.

Is it really cost effective to run an electrolyzer using your automotive charging system?
Answer: No.  A cars charging system is the most inefficient way to produce electricity.  It takes a tremendous amount of power to run even a single cylinder engine on demand.  Even if you have the perfect electrolyzer, it would be more cost effective to connect it to household current or solar.  Then you could store it in a tank and regulate the amount of Hydrogen which is being fed to your vehicle.
    The only time we have seen it cost effective is when the person had an older vehicle and because it would overheat the water in the electrolyzer, the steam would be going into the intake instead of Hydrogen.  This helped clean carbon and gave a small miles per gallon increase for a limited time.

Have you ran a large electrolyzer on a standard gasoline engine?
Answer: Yes, we took a 3 tube electrolyzer and ran it with a separate battery so we would not hurt the charging system of the vehicle. We tried this in a 3.0L 6 cylinder engine. We turned on our electrolyzer and tried to start the vehicle but it locked up. The hydrogen fired much quicker than the gasoline and didn't allow the gasoline to burn. The extra gasoline left in the cylinders locked up the engine. We then shut off the electrolyzer and aired out the cylinders. We then started up the vehicle and turned on the electrolyzer after the engine was running. The vehicle ran smoother and we had checked the fuel economy for a week running in the same conditions before and after installing the electrolyzer. Although the engine seemed to run smoother, the fuel economy did not change. This makes sense since injectors do not stop injecting fuel even though you poor another fuel source down the intake. Many experiments like this one and years of experience have lead us to using a tank with a regulator to run soley on hydrogen. We also adjust the timing to match how volatile hydrogen is. We get less power from the engine because the explosion does not last the complete stroke of the piston.

How far will my vehicle run on hydrogen?
Answer:  If you are talking in general about a standard engine made to run on gasoline, it will not run very far on a tank with low pressure.  If you are running 2000 PSI you will still only run approximately one third the distance on Hydrogen compared to the gasoline tank depending on the size of course.  Generally it is 1/4 the amount gallon per gallon.  Modifications are needed to account for the BTU's and the quick combustion Hydrogen possesses.  With that in mind, a high compression, short stroke, high RPM engine would work best.

What happens if you hook the plates to a piezo (resonator)?
Answer: The bubbles are forced together and it does not seem to generate more hydrogen.  Many experiments are still being done.
SirHoax on youtube has some very good video on the use of vibration.

What happens if you hook a large capacitor to the plates?
Answer: I have tried car coils and large starter capacitors.  Any capacitor that is grounded will immediately be discharged, and water is a ground.  I have zapped the plates with them sticking slightly out of the water and it still did not produce hardly any hydrogen.

Have you tried steam?
Answer: Yes.  I have had steam coming up through the tubes and could not get a single pop from the hydrogen produced.  Please let me know your experiences.

What happens when you run a Tesla coil or high spark through the plates?
Answer: You get a really neat spark show under water.  Unfortunately if you have ever sparked something which is highly flammable, then you know the answer.  It ignites any hydrogen which is produced.


These are just a few boards and pulse generators we have purchased or have been sent to us.
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The standard PWM
DC Speed Controller
Not too good for hydrogen.
 

Bob Boyce board layout

 


This is the new one and it works.
A bit too big for today's technology. 
(I am not kidding).

Other pulse generators

 



Typical Timer Setup.
Heatsink is too small.
  
This one is built well.
 

 
A few of these show up.
These really need modifications.